Jake told me that he had installed the Valley Pan! It was a Super Clean Valley Pan, correctly installed and sealed well. This just happens to be the most goofed up job on a Pontiac Engine. They are Spot Welded Bend to Fit Pinch Weld Pans. They are designed to be "Body Worked" to the engine first. If they have any F.O.D. inside it falls on the camshaft lobes during fittment!